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The Proposal

President Obama recently signed into law a $787 billion stimulus package on top of Bush's grossly mismanaged $700 billion TARP bailout from last September. Several weeks ago, the Federal Reserve basically printed an additional $1,000,000,000,000 to inject more funds into the monetary system which will undoubtedly have the effect of diminishing the purchasing power of the dollar. Since last fall, the government has paid out trillions of dollars in bailouts, handouts, loans and giveaways, with no end in sight as our leaders try anything and everything to try and get our spiraling economy under control. While some of what Washington has already done may act to stimulate the economy, much of the trillions of dollars already spent will, no doubt, turn out to be just money wasted.
 
Tax rebate checks do not stimulate the economy - history shows that people either spend such rebates on paying off credit card debt, or they simply save them, doing little to nothing to stimulate the economy. Presumably, that is why they were removed from the final version of the stimulus bill. The tax cuts that were included, however, amount to a whopping $44 per month for the rest of 2009, decreasing to an even more staggering $33 per month in 2010. This is hardly "relief" as it is likely to help nobody.
 
The Wall Street financial institutions, auto manufacturers, insurance companies and countless other irresponsible actors have now received TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars(as demonstrated above, that's a number with *12* zeros at the end of it) to bail them out of their self-created mess. This, too, does nothing to stimulate the economy. It merely rewards bad behavior and does nothing to encourage institutional change. There is a better way.
 
How many times have we heard from our leaders in Washington that education is the key to solving all of our underlying societal problems? The so-called "Silver Bullet." For decades, presidents, senators and members of Congress have touted themselves as champions of education, yet they've done nothing to actually encourage the pursuit of one on an individual level.
 
Some of us have taken advantage of Federal Stafford Loans and other programs, including private loans, to finance higher education, presumably with the understanding that an advanced degree equates with higher earning power in the future. Many of us go into public service after attaining such degrees, something that's also repeatedly proclaimed as something society should encourage. Yet, the debt we've accrued to obtain such degrees have crippled our ability to reap the benefits of our educations, causing many to make the unfortunate choice of leaving public service so as to earn enough money to pay off that debt.
 
Our economy is in the tank. There isn't a reasonable economist alive who doesn't believe that the economy needs stimulating immediately. The only debate now centers on how to go about doing it. While the new stimulus plan contains some worthy provisions, very little of it will have a significant and immediate stimulating effect on the economy. The Obama Administration itself doesn't expect to see an upsurge in the economy until mid-to-late 2010.
 
Instead of funneling billions, if not trillions of additional dollars to banks, financial institutions, insurance companies and other institutions of greed that are responsible for the current economic crisis, why not allow educated, hardworking, middle-class Americans to get something in return? After all, they're our tax dollars too!
 
Forgiving student loan debt would have an immediate stimulating effect on the economy. Responsible people who did nothing other than pursue a higher education would have hundreds, if not thousands of extra dollars per month to spend, fueling the economy now. Those extra dollars being pumped into the economy would have a multiplying effect, unlike many of the provisions of the new stimulus package. As a result, tax revenues would go up, the credit markets will unfreeze and jobs will be created. Consumer spending accounts for over two thirds of the entire U.S. economy and in recent months, consumer spending has declined at alarming, unprecedented rates. Therefore, it stands to reason that the fastest way to revive our ailing economy is to do something drastic to get consumers to spend.
 
This proposal would quickly revitalize the housing market, the ailing automobile industry, travel and tourism, durable goods and countless other sectors of the economy because the very people who sustain those sectors will automatically have hundreds or, in some cases, thousands of extra dollars per month to spend. The driving factor in today's economy is fear. Unless and until the middle class feels comfortable enough that they'll have their jobs, health insurance and extra money to spend not only next month, but the month after that, etc., the economy will not, indeed, cannot grow fast enough to stop the hemorrhaging.
 
Let me be clear. This is not about a free ride. This is about a new approach to economic stimulus, nothing more. To those who would argue that this proposal would cause the banking system to collapse or make student loans unavailable to future borrowers, please allow me to respond. I am in no way suggesting that the lending institutions who carry such debts on their balance sheets get legislatively shafted by having them wiped from their books. The banks and other financial institutions are going to get their money regardless because, in addition to the $700 TARP bailout, more bailout money is coming their way. This proposal merely suggests that in return for the trillions of dollars that has been and will continue to be handed over to the banks, educated, hardworking Americans who are saddled with student loan debt should get some relief as well, rather than sending those institutions another enormous blank check. Because the banks are being handed Trillions of dollars anyway, there would be no danger of making funds unavailable to future borrowers.
 
To avoid the moral hazard that this plan could potentially create, going forward, the way higher education in this country is financed MUST be reformed. Requiring students to amass enormous debt just to receive an education is an untenable approach, as demonstrated by the ever-growing student loan default rates. Having a loan-based system rather than one based on grants and scholarships or, ideally, public funding, has, over time, begun to have the unintended consequence of discouraging people from seeking higher education at all. That is no way for America to reclaim the mantle of the land of opportunity.
 
A well-educated workforce benefits society as a whole, not just the students who receive a higher education. It is often said that an undergraduate degree today is the equivalent of a high school diploma 30 or 40 years ago. Accepting the premise as true that society does, in fact, place the same value on an undergraduate degree today as it did on a HS diploma 30 or 40 years ago, then what is the rationale for cutting off public funding of education after the 12th grade? It seems to me that there is some dissonance in our values that needs to be reconciled. That, however, cannot come to pass until the millions of us already shackled with student loan debt are freed from the enormous economic burdens we're presently carrying.
 
Many of the vocal nay-sayers to this proposal seem intent on ignoring the fact that Washington IS going to spend trillions of dollars, likely in the form of handing blank checks over to more and more banks, as a way of getting the economy under control. Normative assessments of how things should be are fine, but they don't reflect reality. Accepting the premise that Washington will spend Trillions of dollars in unprecedented ways (a good portion of which will just be trial and error, since we're in uncharted waters), what is the argument against directly helping middle class people who are struggling, rather than focusing solely on the banks and other financial institutions responsible for crisis to begin with?
 
Further accepting that there is an aggregate amount of outstanding student loan debt totaling approximately $550 Billion, (that's Billion with a B, not a T), one is forced to ask again, what is the objection to helping real people with real hardships when all we're talking about is a relative drop in the bucket as compared with what will be spent to dig us out of this hole?
 
In a perfect world, I share these biases towards personal responsibility and having people pay back what they owe and making good on the commitments they've made. But we don't live in a perfect world and the global economy, not just the U.S. economy, is in a downward spiral, the likes of which nobody truly knows how to fix.
 
This proposal will immediately free up money for hardworking, educated Americans, giving them more money in their pockets every month, addressing the very real psychological aspects of the recession as much as the financial ones. Is it the only answer? No, of course not. But could it help millions of hardworking people who struggle every month to get by? Absolutely. Given the current economic climate, as well as the plans to spend trillions of additional dollars that are in the works, one must wonder what is so objectionable about giving a real helping hand to real people with real struggles.
 
2009 and the new Obama Administration is supposed to be about change. Nothing in the new economic stimulus package represents a significant departure from the way Washington has always operated - it's merely a different set of priorities on a higher scale, but it's certainly not materially different from any other economic stimulus package passed during the past few decades. Washington cannot simply print and borrow money to get us out of this crisis. We The People, however, can get this economy moving NOW. All we need is relief from debt that was accrued under the now-false promise that higher education equates with higher earnings.
 
Free us of our obligations to repay our out-of-control student loan debt and we, the hardworking, middle-class Americans who drive this economy will spend those extra dollars now.
 
If you believe that there's a better way of climbing out of this economic crisis, one that empowers us to directly spend money, start businesses, free up credit and create jobs, then please join this group and encourage others to do so as well. There's strength in numbers - the more people to join this group, the louder our voices and the greater the chances of being heard by President Obama and Congress.
 
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Outrageous

Thank you for your service to people like me. I spent five years, without income, in graduate school, in order to learn how to help mentally ill people. When I consolidated my student loans in 1997 I owed approximately $60,000 at more than 8% interest. I have been making monthly payments of $500 for the last twelve years, and I now owe $58,000 at still more than 8%! This means that I have paid over $72,000 in the last 12 years, and I am only $2,000 ahead!!!

I worked for 5 years in private university and school settings. I then worked 6 years in the public schools, where I was underpaid, in a state being sued for failure to fund the retirement of its teachers. I then worked for two years in a state program for adolescent and juvenile offenders, broken children who showed up for psychological testing in shackles, dragging behind them long histories of severe abuse. As a result of these jobs I suffered my own mental health problems and was forced to take a medical leave. I am not able to find full-time work for which my education prepared me in this economy. My student loan servicer was able to offer me the option of postponing payments for 6 months so as not to go into default, while my balance grows. They cannot reduce my monthly payments any further as I am basically only paying interest.

These circumstances constitute an outrageous form of the abuse of government power. I have paid more than what was loaned to me by my government. have helped many. When will my government help me?

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my thoughts on student loans

Although I am still a student, by the time (hopefully) I finish my Masters and PhD I will have amassed an estimated 100,000 dollars in student loan debt. I intend to pursue research and teaching in a state university or college. It will be very difficult to pay back the entire amount, I am also what is termed a 'non-traditional' student, meaning I am over the age of 25, I could conceivably be paying my loans back after I retire, if I get to retire. I don't think forgiving the entire debt is a feasible option, I do believe in paying for my education, however, forgiving a portion of the debt would go a long way in giving people discretionary funds to put back into the economy. A much better solution than dumping billions of tax payer dollars into financial and auto industries that have proven they cannot be trusted with monies of any kind.

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The proposal makes perfect sense..... is anything happening?

I will keep this brief: The original amount of my student loan was $50,000. I have paid on it for 10 years and I am now in deferment because I have been unemployed since Oct 2008, when I lost my job of 8 years due to the economy or so I am told. The insurance company i worked for eliminated my position and let go a number of us with senority stating "bad economic times." The company continued to gross billions and our jobs are posted on Monster.com, because they are using the economic downturn as an opportunity to hire in younger employees that they can pay less. Point..... the government continues to bail them out. What about us? My original 50k student loan is now up to 75k and that is before deferment! I did all calculations and i have to date paid in excess of the original 50k.

What a gift it would be for those of us who have already given interest (for 10 years plus) to goverment lenders and have paid in full our debt -- if they would forgive this 75K balance. We want our country to be educated..... don't we? They have already made money. This is pure profit. As was stated previously in other posts what a way to stimulate the economy and encourage education. The interest rates should be regulated. This is WRONG

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Not even in Bankruptcy

Greetings,

I was a somewhat successful real estate developer, employing 40 people at times providing places for people to live, some at a loss, and still making a good living for my family. That is when liquidity dried up and I was forced into a chapter 7 bankruptcy. People lost their places they were living, my family lost all of their possessions, and I even had to borrow a car from a family member to get around.
The way I was making money before will not come back for some time. I have been looking for work and taking any job I can find. I have been able to defer payments on the student loans but now that deferment is at an end and Sallie Mae says there are no other options for deferment or forbearance.
I was able to liquidate all my assets and all my debt, except for student loans. I am responsible for my ex wife’s student loans as a cosigner and through a divorce decree. I am also faced with jail time, (contempt of court) if I do not keep the loans in forbearance or make the payments.
The job(s) that I have do not cover even the basic necessities of life, rent, food, and healthcare. I receive help from my family, my church, and healthcare for my wife and expectant child through the state. I go to school 1/2 time, along with working, to keep the student loans in my name in deferment.
The loans that I am cosigned on I cannot defer by going to school since I was not the student. The new bankruptcy law made it almost impossible to forgive student loans. They want you to prove that you will NEVER be able to earn the money to pay them back during your lifetime.
I wonder if I will be able to earn that money from a jail cell.
Forgiving student loans would not only stimulate the economy but keep it from getting much worse.
A less radical option would be to have a program that you could apply to have your student loan payments waived while the interest was paid. Interest payments would be made to the lenders, the lenders would not try to collect on the principle while the borrower was in the program, and when the borrower was in a position to afford payments again they could be gradually brought back into the repayment system.
This would have less cost than just forgiving the loans. Better yet, The Fed could buy the loans, rewrite them at a low interest rate, and then have the borrower pay them back over time when they could afford it. This would inject a huge amount of money back into the lending coffers, and give the Fed a return on investment as well.
There are a lot of options, but throwing people in jail and taking away the hope of ever getting off of government assistance is not the option.

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I don't see why we are arguring

I take offense to those who think all people go into students loans haphazardly or think they take no responsibility for their debt.
I don't know that I agree 100% with forgiving the loans completely. But I have to say that in the recent enlightenment of governement screw ups from mortgages to banking, I believe that students loans are just one more area along with college tuitions that could be added.
I come from a middle class family that really knew nothing about student loans or what it meant to be paying this 10 years from now. I sat in the financial aid office signing papers trying desperately to understand what they were saying. Being 20 years old and ill-equipped to truely sign anything of this magnatude. I never knew anything about buy-outs that could change interest rates and repayment amounts. When I first started to pay back my loan it was $97 month. Within a year, the loan was sold and it went up to $142. A couple years later, they offered a consolidation (that sounded great according to them) and suddenly I had a $340 a month payment! Where was the government to protect me and my family from increases like this. The same place they were when they mortgage companies were offereing balloon mortgages that sent many people into foreclosure.
And on that note, where is the government to help us say that $20K a year for a state college is too much? The same place they are with the loan companies...not really caring!
For those of you who are able to live the american dream and are able to pay back their loans or had a special person in their lives to explain to you what it was to take out a loan and pay it back....Kudos to you. I applaud that person and you.
In telling me that I should forgo on certain things to pay back my responsibilities, is to say that I shouldn't have gotten married or had children. My not repaying my loans in a timely fashion has nothing to do with a big screen tv. It has everything to do with a greedy college, greedy loan companies and a useless government.
I agree with whoever said that education about these loans starts in highschool. They need to offer sessions on this.
Something needs to be done and if Robert has stimulated conversation in congress on helping others like myself, then so be it.

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Could not agree more.Thanks

Could not agree more.Thanks for the lil tip also.;)http://www.fastemailsender.com/

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Hm.

You're being grossly assumptive in suggesting everyone with a student loan is an honest hardworking American with a real hardship, let alone one who is actually using the education they went into debt to get for some purpose.
I know this is incredulous of me to say in this day an age, but instead of blindly wiping away a debt, what if we actually started talking about personal responsibility and sacrifice? I know that's anathema
right now, since we're in forgiveness mode and everyone should lead perfect lives with absolutely no struggle whatsoever, but seriously, give me a break.
Here's a trick when starting down the path to secondary education: If you can't afford out-of-state tuition, go to school in state. Or get a roommate. Or a job. Or two jobs. My god, it's so cruel an inhumane isn't it? Asking someone to work hard to pay off their debts. I should know. I'm still doing it.
Or I know, how about this one: If you have a student loan, maybe you should pay it instead of getting a flat screen tv. I'm still saving up for mine. I know that's really bad for the economy or me to save my money and not spend it, but oh well. Call me an uncaring American.
The other issues I have with your proposal is that you denigrate someone who would actually use money returned (which was ours to begin with) to pay off a debt or even put it in savings.
That kinda sounds like people are being responsible with their money as opposed to buying junk they don't need.
Finally- and I know this might be contrarian to you, but did it ever occur to you some of us with loans don't want a handout. I'd rather sacrifice than be treated like a charity case, thank you very much.
It's made me who I am.

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Wait a minute ...

Okay, so we forgive the student loan debt, and then what? The money will come from increased taxes and/or reduced services for the entire population - effectively punishing those who have paid off their student loans, and taking funds from those who are at the lowest rungs on the economic ladder. Is it "fair" for the person cleaning the law offices to be paying higher taxes because the lawyer had his or her student loans forgiven?

Going to college should pay economic benefits in higher earnings to the student down the road. Doesn't it make sense that we impose some discipline on those seeking a college education - i.e., a return on investment? If we are talking about the next Russian Lit major who will be serving me at Starbucks, sure, that may make the banter at the barista counter more interesting, but is that what I want to subsidize with my hard earned tax dollars? Should that be one of our nation's priorities when there are homeless living under the crumbling bridge around the corner?

The "bailout funds should be used to forgive student debt INSTEAD" argument is a false choice. Just because someone doesn't want to bailout the banks, doesn't mean we should try to find some other wasteful, unfair use for the funds.

Get a grip. Find a job or start a business (heck, start a janitorial firm) and pay off your darn loans like the rest of us.

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Homelessness

You assume that the homeless person on the street doesn't have student loan debt. It is the only debt that is nearly impossible to discharge in bankruptcy.

Also, the debt doesn't have to be cancelled all the way. We already regulate it to set minimum payments. We could simply go further and say the that government will buy up the debt (which is already co-signed by the government) and reduce interest rates to 1%.

Under Mosaic law all debts were erased every 50 years. Under Islamic and Christian law usury was banned, meaning at times either no interest or no excessive interests was allowed. A real society with morals does not treat each other like this.

Also, the 3 ton elephant in the room is the military budget. We spend $1,000,000 per troop per year in Afghanistan. We spend $680B per year on military, 55% of our federal budget. In contrast, most states within the U.S. spend about 55% of their budget on education, and most developed countries choose to educate their citizens instead of killing other people.

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Non-sequiturs

Robert,

Since this is a board about student loans, I'll refrain from commenting on your apparent assertion that forgiving student debt would be an an efficient way to eliminate homelessness or that the United States should send ill-equipped troops into battle. We might share significant common ground on the issue of U.S. foreign policy, but that is not really the topic of this board, now is it?

Your point that most states spend 55 percent of their budgets on education and the value of a college degree is what I'll choose to address. I think we both agree that an educated citizenry is desirable, but I think we disagree on who should pay and at what cost. I am in favor of improving K-12 education - both through increased funding and systemic reform. My position is that a college degree isn't a necessity for everyone, and the burden of arranging financing for the degree should be borne by the student.

If someone is going to commit four or more years that they otherwise would be in the workforce (roughly ten percent of their productive years) and pursue a college education, there is a cost to both the student and society in foregone earnings, revenues and productivity. If the education serves to produce an offsetting increase in the student's earnings in future periods, it is money well spent. Under this scenario, the student should be capable of meeting his or her student loan obligations and society as a whole benefits.

However, there should be a mechanism for discouraging students from attending expensive schools and then either failing to attain a degree or pursuing a degree in a field with limited opportunities. I submit that the most fair and effective mechanism is our current system, where students showing exceptional promise can obtain scholarships, students can obtain loans on favorable terms, and students can also elect to continue working and attend evening and weekend classes.

If we entirely divorce the allocation of advanced education from the market mechanism, the dead weight loss to the economy would be substantial. More ill-equipped students would attend overpriced universities in pursuit of degrees in fields with limited opportunities. The student loan program imposes a needed discipline on those of limited means who wish to commit resources to their pursuit of higher education.

This country continues to stray down the path of punishing those who save for their child's education, attempting to allocate an increasing percentage of scarce resources through non-price rationing, and rewarding the unproductive. Interference in the markets for goods and services should be done only with humility and where our collective conscience deems necessary. Not with grand illusions of creating a Utopian society.

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