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The Proposal

President Obama recently signed into law a $787 billion stimulus package on top of Bush's grossly mismanaged $700 billion TARP bailout from last September. Several weeks ago, the Federal Reserve basically printed an additional $1,000,000,000,000 to inject more funds into the monetary system which will undoubtedly have the effect of diminishing the purchasing power of the dollar. Since last fall, the government has paid out trillions of dollars in bailouts, handouts, loans and giveaways, with no end in sight as our leaders try anything and everything to try and get our spiraling economy under control. While some of what Washington has already done may act to stimulate the economy, much of the trillions of dollars already spent will, no doubt, turn out to be just money wasted.
 
Tax rebate checks do not stimulate the economy - history shows that people either spend such rebates on paying off credit card debt, or they simply save them, doing little to nothing to stimulate the economy. Presumably, that is why they were removed from the final version of the stimulus bill. The tax cuts that were included, however, amount to a whopping $44 per month for the rest of 2009, decreasing to an even more staggering $33 per month in 2010. This is hardly "relief" as it is likely to help nobody.
 
The Wall Street financial institutions, auto manufacturers, insurance companies and countless other irresponsible actors have now received TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars(as demonstrated above, that's a number with *12* zeros at the end of it) to bail them out of their self-created mess. This, too, does nothing to stimulate the economy. It merely rewards bad behavior and does nothing to encourage institutional change. There is a better way.
 
How many times have we heard from our leaders in Washington that education is the key to solving all of our underlying societal problems? The so-called "Silver Bullet." For decades, presidents, senators and members of Congress have touted themselves as champions of education, yet they've done nothing to actually encourage the pursuit of one on an individual level.
 
Some of us have taken advantage of Federal Stafford Loans and other programs, including private loans, to finance higher education, presumably with the understanding that an advanced degree equates with higher earning power in the future. Many of us go into public service after attaining such degrees, something that's also repeatedly proclaimed as something society should encourage. Yet, the debt we've accrued to obtain such degrees have crippled our ability to reap the benefits of our educations, causing many to make the unfortunate choice of leaving public service so as to earn enough money to pay off that debt.
 
Our economy is in the tank. There isn't a reasonable economist alive who doesn't believe that the economy needs stimulating immediately. The only debate now centers on how to go about doing it. While the new stimulus plan contains some worthy provisions, very little of it will have a significant and immediate stimulating effect on the economy. The Obama Administration itself doesn't expect to see an upsurge in the economy until mid-to-late 2010.
 
Instead of funneling billions, if not trillions of additional dollars to banks, financial institutions, insurance companies and other institutions of greed that are responsible for the current economic crisis, why not allow educated, hardworking, middle-class Americans to get something in return? After all, they're our tax dollars too!
 
Forgiving student loan debt would have an immediate stimulating effect on the economy. Responsible people who did nothing other than pursue a higher education would have hundreds, if not thousands of extra dollars per month to spend, fueling the economy now. Those extra dollars being pumped into the economy would have a multiplying effect, unlike many of the provisions of the new stimulus package. As a result, tax revenues would go up, the credit markets will unfreeze and jobs will be created. Consumer spending accounts for over two thirds of the entire U.S. economy and in recent months, consumer spending has declined at alarming, unprecedented rates. Therefore, it stands to reason that the fastest way to revive our ailing economy is to do something drastic to get consumers to spend.
 
This proposal would quickly revitalize the housing market, the ailing automobile industry, travel and tourism, durable goods and countless other sectors of the economy because the very people who sustain those sectors will automatically have hundreds or, in some cases, thousands of extra dollars per month to spend. The driving factor in today's economy is fear. Unless and until the middle class feels comfortable enough that they'll have their jobs, health insurance and extra money to spend not only next month, but the month after that, etc., the economy will not, indeed, cannot grow fast enough to stop the hemorrhaging.
 
Let me be clear. This is not about a free ride. This is about a new approach to economic stimulus, nothing more. To those who would argue that this proposal would cause the banking system to collapse or make student loans unavailable to future borrowers, please allow me to respond. I am in no way suggesting that the lending institutions who carry such debts on their balance sheets get legislatively shafted by having them wiped from their books. The banks and other financial institutions are going to get their money regardless because, in addition to the $700 TARP bailout, more bailout money is coming their way. This proposal merely suggests that in return for the trillions of dollars that has been and will continue to be handed over to the banks, educated, hardworking Americans who are saddled with student loan debt should get some relief as well, rather than sending those institutions another enormous blank check. Because the banks are being handed Trillions of dollars anyway, there would be no danger of making funds unavailable to future borrowers.
 
To avoid the moral hazard that this plan could potentially create, going forward, the way higher education in this country is financed MUST be reformed. Requiring students to amass enormous debt just to receive an education is an untenable approach, as demonstrated by the ever-growing student loan default rates. Having a loan-based system rather than one based on grants and scholarships or, ideally, public funding, has, over time, begun to have the unintended consequence of discouraging people from seeking higher education at all. That is no way for America to reclaim the mantle of the land of opportunity.
 
A well-educated workforce benefits society as a whole, not just the students who receive a higher education. It is often said that an undergraduate degree today is the equivalent of a high school diploma 30 or 40 years ago. Accepting the premise as true that society does, in fact, place the same value on an undergraduate degree today as it did on a HS diploma 30 or 40 years ago, then what is the rationale for cutting off public funding of education after the 12th grade? It seems to me that there is some dissonance in our values that needs to be reconciled. That, however, cannot come to pass until the millions of us already shackled with student loan debt are freed from the enormous economic burdens we're presently carrying.
 
Many of the vocal nay-sayers to this proposal seem intent on ignoring the fact that Washington IS going to spend trillions of dollars, likely in the form of handing blank checks over to more and more banks, as a way of getting the economy under control. Normative assessments of how things should be are fine, but they don't reflect reality. Accepting the premise that Washington will spend Trillions of dollars in unprecedented ways (a good portion of which will just be trial and error, since we're in uncharted waters), what is the argument against directly helping middle class people who are struggling, rather than focusing solely on the banks and other financial institutions responsible for crisis to begin with?
 
Further accepting that there is an aggregate amount of outstanding student loan debt totaling approximately $550 Billion, (that's Billion with a B, not a T), one is forced to ask again, what is the objection to helping real people with real hardships when all we're talking about is a relative drop in the bucket as compared with what will be spent to dig us out of this hole?
 
In a perfect world, I share these biases towards personal responsibility and having people pay back what they owe and making good on the commitments they've made. But we don't live in a perfect world and the global economy, not just the U.S. economy, is in a downward spiral, the likes of which nobody truly knows how to fix.
 
This proposal will immediately free up money for hardworking, educated Americans, giving them more money in their pockets every month, addressing the very real psychological aspects of the recession as much as the financial ones. Is it the only answer? No, of course not. But could it help millions of hardworking people who struggle every month to get by? Absolutely. Given the current economic climate, as well as the plans to spend trillions of additional dollars that are in the works, one must wonder what is so objectionable about giving a real helping hand to real people with real struggles.
 
2009 and the new Obama Administration is supposed to be about change. Nothing in the new economic stimulus package represents a significant departure from the way Washington has always operated - it's merely a different set of priorities on a higher scale, but it's certainly not materially different from any other economic stimulus package passed during the past few decades. Washington cannot simply print and borrow money to get us out of this crisis. We The People, however, can get this economy moving NOW. All we need is relief from debt that was accrued under the now-false promise that higher education equates with higher earnings.
 
Free us of our obligations to repay our out-of-control student loan debt and we, the hardworking, middle-class Americans who drive this economy will spend those extra dollars now.
 
If you believe that there's a better way of climbing out of this economic crisis, one that empowers us to directly spend money, start businesses, free up credit and create jobs, then please join this group and encourage others to do so as well. There's strength in numbers - the more people to join this group, the louder our voices and the greater the chances of being heard by President Obama and Congress.
 
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REAL change would be nice

I am so happy to have discovered this website as it is the culmination of all the things I really wish I had the time and talent to put together myself for this cause.

First of all, I know there are a lot of people out there who disagree with the idea of bailing out graduates that owe an exorbitant amount of student loan debt and receive very minimal return on their investments in their education. I would imagine this is one very big example of a generation gap where the antagonists got their educations at pennies on the dollar 20 yrs ago when compared to the cost of tuition for the average college student today. They also faced a much better job market coming out of school once they did graduate, so paying back student loans in the 70's, 80's, and boom yrs of the 90's was really no big deal for them (in general).

Well guess what, its a damn big deal now for young people coming out of school these days. I remember in High School when I was searching for colleges to attend, I regarded cost of tuition as a very big factor in which school I chose to enroll. I had middle age teachers, advisors, family friends, guidance counselors, etc. all tell me I shouldn't worry about tuition costs because once I graduated I would get a great job with great benefits and my student loan payment would be just a drop in the bucket.

WRONG!

What a sucker I was to believe all that, but I surely am not the only one!! I feel sorry for many of those antagonists of this movement because they are very likely lying to their own children and grandchildren without even knowing it. They tell their kids, "Study hard, go to college, get a good degree, and the world is yours!" They also claim that they want their children and grandchildren to live in a safer and more prosperous world than the one they grew up in. Yet when they have a choice to prove this, they bombastically hit the alarm and sound off on the generation this movement would truly help. I don't understand the hypocrisy other than it explains the mantra, "What's in it for me?" Sure you want a better world for your kids and grandkids - well here's your opportunity to put your money where your mouth is.

I write this because I know this movement needs the support of elder generations if it is to garner any footing for true legislative support. I only hope that my parent's generation looks beyond the stigma of past banking bail outs and the notion that GEN X and Y are lazy, unproductive, and full of entitlement - and realizes that a movement such as this would directly benefit their own - meaning their children and grandchildren. Why sit by and let this administration fatten the wallets and pockets of the already well to do and the elitists who blatantly rob the rest of us?

I say, and I do believe, that this is a great opportunity to put taxpayer money into the hands of those who might actually deserve it. College graduates played by the rules, followed the system, and yearn to be a productive part of society. This is the type of behavior that should be rewarded, not marginalized. Why can't we all see the bigger picture as Mr. Applebaum is trying to illustrate? A program such as this WOULD get the economy out of the depths because 20 somethings would have the ability to make certain purchases they currently cannot, thus stimulating the auto industry, housing market, etc. Right now, for most graduates in their 20's, the prospect of buying a car, owning a home, putting their children through college and supporting their future grandkids... long from becoming a reality. Please take it from someone in that very position who has many friends and family members who are also in that very position.

There is always talk from our parents and grandparents about investing in the future; in our kids and grandkids. Please make believers out of us.

Thank you.

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Thank You

Thank you for your kind, eloquent words of support.  You make some valid points and, on behalf of the entire FSLD community, welcome aboard!  Please be sure to take our polls, participate in the discussions on the message boards and, most importantly, tell your friends and family about our site!
-Rob

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Ability to pay off loans

There are many people who would be more than capable of paying off their loans. They study hard, receive a very good GPA, and get good interviews from people in their sector who are interested in the graduate's skill set. However, in many cases, there is no outstanding job market waiting for graduates after school. In few cases, there is no job market waiting. What many skeptics of this idea say is that we don't deserve a bailout because we know what we're getting ourselves into. There are unforeseen circumstances on the other side of school and we should be prepared for them.

We should come prepared for all sorts of things that come at us, and we should have to work for them in order to be successful in life. We do not deserve to be bailed out and we do not deserve money to be thrown at us if we fail at our endeavors. However, the economy as we see it will not see an upturn until mid-to-late 2010. By the time, many of the people that are in my graduating class will be outside of school; many might be hit hard because there simply isn't a job market big enough to take every single person who comes out of their program. So, in order to make sure that we do not spiral downwards any more, we should make sure that our futures are secure. The government, using money they would have used to bailout bigger financial institutions, should come our way so that we can take a turn for the better in this rough economic time. We need consumer spending to make an upturn in the economy and through spending more money, more jobs can be opened up to capture more of the consumer's money. It is the simple, yet complex, notion of supply and demand.

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Why not bankruptcy?

While I agree with much that is written about personal responsibilty, unfortunately, that is not how people work.

I prefer minimal government,
but without cops people would rob a lot more,
without highway patrol people would speed a lot more,
without public education many people would choose to raise a child in ignorance, and without limits on borrowing people will incur huge debt for stupid things (Like most college degrees)

And, unfortunately, not only does the government not limit borrowing, they actually encourage it. That is why they should fix the problem.

I have heard it that bankruptcy shouldn't be allowed because one cannot give back their education (or brain). But we all know that many of these degrees are worthless (or else this wouldn't even be an issue). All these schools are selling is a diploma. A diploma can easily be given back in exchange for bankruptcy.

Forgiving debt would not harm a single person, so why not?
Oh, the investors? I don't think somebody who invests in selling pieces of paper for $100k counts as a person.

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Mulligan on this back door slavery!

There are many things at fault for where I am today. I was a naive kid when I signed those student loan papers. I had big dreams and wanted to find out if I had what it took to make it. I signed up for film school (art institute. Dont go there!) and signed those loans because my parents weren't in a possition to help me pay for school. Well, as 99% of who ever has studied film can say, My education is NOT benefiting me. That's no one's fault really, it's the nature of the creative persuits. But the fact of the matter is that I got an education, just like anyone else. There are the creative and passionate people who chase their dreams, and then there are the one's who chase "responsible business degrees." Look, the way I see it is us creative types make the music and movies and books that the business types enjoy, so they should be helping us out too. Not enslaving us and punishing us for not thinking like them. Maybe I could have used a little more guidence when I was younger, but that's not my fault.
Everything I'm reading on this page is a bunch of victims of circumstance. It's really depressing. But it's the world we're creating for ourselves. If only I could just say Mulligan and erase that one big mistake, I could get my life on track. We need this forgiveness. If God can forgive, I think fat cat money lenders should be able to as well. On a case by case basis. Just like the God on our dollar bill.
I respect what some of you had to say about personal accountability and all, but let's not forget about the accountability of these lenders. They're providing a service. We're not signing up to be robbed of our financial freedom, which is the ruling factor in all of our decisions for the rest of our lives, we're trying to better our lives by seeking education. It's absolutely criminal that these institutions are aloud to do what they do, mark up their price with or without notice just because they can, trap their customers in a contract that is binding but not bound to any guarantee, and LITERALLY put people out on the streets and STILL persue them relentlessly. Student loans, literally, are a gamble. Listen to what people are saying! Suicide! Exodus! Homelessness (just about there myself, thank you Sallie Mae, you are the devil in a red dress). This is insanity and something must be done about it. Yes, we all signed up to pay for a favor, but this is worse than owing the mob when suicide is the only out.
I have no roof over my head. I've been floating around for a year because my situation started snowballing about a year ago. I've been working little wretched jobs around the country just because I can't let the loan companies know where I am (by the way, this is the only way, aside from suicide, to avoid wage garneshment). I live a marginal, dreamless existance and see no way out of this. This is not what I signed up for. This is not the result of getting an education (but it might be what I get for persuing a film degree).
Oh, this world. What we've made of it.

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misinformed people

To all those like "Responsible Business Major", "Sean Johnston", "Shadow Prancer" etc... they ahve no clue what some of us have gone through to keep our heads above water or for the ones who have begun to sink under the water. Here is CA the job market is tough. I'm very thankful for the government related job I have and plan on keeping it as long as I can. I could have kept moving from job to job, state to state trying to find a higher paying job, but I chose to keep my kids in a stable environment and hope that the government would take their head out of their ass and help the "little" people and let the "rich" sink for once. HA! this will never happen. If it wasn't for this site and all Mr.Applebaum has done for the cause most of us would give up hope. I really think that the government will come to their senses and help out the "little" people if we yell and scream loud enough. Remember that the squeeky wheel gets the grease. We need to send letters and help the cause as much as possible. I'm not looking for my debts to be forgiven, just the interest. I'm willing to pay the principle, but not the interest. I owe more in interest then in principle. At the rate my loans are increasing I will NEVER!!!!!!!!!! pay them off. I just keep deferring them and getting hardships. For the above people I spoke of, SHUTUP and go somewhere else and complain to someone who wants to here your unneeded whining.

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Trapped by Debt

I recently started my own blog at http://misplacededucation.blogspot.com/ so please visit if you are interested in reading my story as I unfold it. I would like all your comments because I am really feeling lost in my isolation.

I found this site in my frustrated search for some answers as to what to do. I have made some serious mistakes to get myself here just as all you have. And I am not asking for a free ride. But forgiving student loan debt would save me, and possibly my marriage.

I don't know how long I can continue to make interest payments on a debt that will never shrink.

It's nice that the only way these debts can currently be discharged are in death and full and permanent disability. No one here should have to think about either of these when all they really want is to make good, have a family of their own and a decent home. But this debt is crushing and keeps you from being able to provide for family.

The shame is we all had good intentions and now we are just slaves to such immense debt that nothing else seems possible without some help, some realistic and compassionate help for people with good minds that are just going to waste.

I say forgive student loan debt to stimulate the economy and/or make these loans at least interest free so that what we do pay goes directly to principle.
And then reform the whole student loan lending system because trapping people in this debt is wrong at every level and is only creating a whole new race of slaves.

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I am sympathetic to all the

I am sympathetic to all the postings and stories here ... but I do believe many people are overlooking the aspect of personal accountability. I would have loved to attend and expensive liberal arts school and study philosophy , underwater basket weaving, or whatever it is they teach for $60k per year .... but I was pragmatic and pursued a degree in business so that I would have practical skills. After graduating I got a good job for $50k per year, worked hard and 8 years later I'm making $200k/year and have no debts. I work in an international conglomerate and many of my employees reside in other countries, and I must admit their work effort and dedication is far superior to most American employees I've managed. It's time we as a country stop feeling entitled and privileged and get back to the principle of honest hard work that made our country great in the first place.

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All due respect

Though I am very tempted to call you an empty-souled sweat factory fat cat slave driver (which you pretty much self described) I must painfuly agree with you that buckling down with some hard work is what it really takes to make it. I think this student loan enslavement problem is symptomatic of what USA's real problem is: Dreamers, like me. People who want to persue their passions and personal happiness. This is supposed to be the land of the free, the land of oppertunity. That's why my ansestors came here, so that maybe I could persue my dreams, and my kids might, and their kids might. But this country has defaulted. Those who still seek and believe in the American Dream are enslaved by the evil behind it's pretty eyes. America is supposed to be the place where WE CAN PERSUE OUR DREAMS, not like every other developing country where we're forced out of it. Yes, hard work will help us along the way, and everyone's dreams are different, and with the amount of people in the country I think there's room for everyone to chase them down and accomplish them. Not everyone wants to be a rockstar, and not everyone wants to be a executive, and not everyone wants to live fancy. Come on, out with that business sense fascist mentality. That's what's killing the American Dream to begin with. It's not all about the money, you know.

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typical superiority complex

you are so very judgemental, "responsible business major". just because i am an artist and wanted to learn art doesn't mean i should suffer more than you. i design arts and crafts kits and toys for young children. it doesn't pay so well, but it's what i am very good at, and am passionate about. if everyone went your way, to the money, there would be no preschool teachers, no good toys for kids, and no art for you to enjoy.
if i earned my degree, not borrowed tons of money and just wasted it, i should get something back for that, not years and years and YEARS of suffering, feeling terrible about myself just because i can't pay back the ridiculously high cost of education in this country. it's just one of the problems, along with health care, that plagues this country and is bringing our standard of living down.

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